Hey Ray, thanks for reading and responding. I actually started checking Saners out the other day and I appreciate what you're going for. Perhaps this is an offline conversation, but I bristled a little when the intro video talked about trusting the climate scientists. Following the science is a good idea, but not necessarily the scientists. I have been surrounded by climate scientists and other so-called climate experts for decades now. One example is my last serious romantic partner, who has a PhD in Environmental Sciences from Columbia and was a higher up at NYC's Department of Environmental Services under Bloomberg. I was also tight with a cadre of similarly accomplished folks from MIT, Columbia (my alma mater), Harvard, and Yale. It's my abundant experience that many, if not most, climate scientists (excepting Jim Hanson) are so enmeshed in the destructive system and their vaunted roles as the good guys in this destructive system, they can't even imagine a world outside the current system--why many if not most still board planes to attend international conferences on decarbonization. I'd much sooner trust an Amish child to prescribe our way out of the current climate crisis. The solutions are not complicated--stop driving, stop feeding industry, stop supporting war-hawk, pro-fracking, pro-gas-and-oil pols (regardless of their party). The execution and unified coordination is the hard part. Happy to discuss further.